A sail area/displacement ratio below 16 would be considered under powered;
16 to 20 would indicate reasonably good performance;
above 20 suggests relatively high performance.
SA/D = SA (ft²) ÷ (Disp (lbs) / 64)^
A Ballast/Displacement ratio of 40 or more translates into a stiffer, more powerful boat that will be better able to stand up to the wind.
Bal./Disp = ballast (lbs)/ displacement (lbs)*
The lower a boat's Displacement/Length (LWL) ratio, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed.
less than = Ultralight;
+ = Ultraheavy;
D/L = (Disp / ) / (*LWL)^3.
This is a ratio created by Ted Brewer as a measure of motion comfort. It provides a reasonable comparison between yachts of similar size and type. It is based on the fact that the faster the motion the more upsetting it is to the average person. Consider, though, that the typical summertime coastal cruiser will rarely encounter the wind and seas that an ocean going yacht will meet.
Numbers below 20 indicate a lightweight racing boat;
20 to 30 indicates a coastal cruiser;
30 to 40 indicates a moderate bluewater cruising boat;
40 to 50 indicates a heavy bluewater boat;
over 50 indicates an extremely heavy bluewater boat.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ ( x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam^), where displacement is expressed in pounds, and length is expressed in feet.
Capsize Screening Formula (CSF):
Designed to determine if a boat has blue water capability. The CSF compares beam with displacement since excess beam contributes to capsize and heavy displacement reduces capsize vulnerability. The boat is better suited for ocean passages (vs coastal cruising) if the result of the calculation is or less. The lower the better.
CSF = Beam/Disp (cubic ft)^ The displacement in cubic feet can be found by dividing the displacement in pounds by
S# first appeared (that we know of) in TellTales, April , “On a Scale of One to Ten” by A.P. Brooks . The equation incorporates SA/Disp (% fore triangle) and Disp/length ratios to create a guide to probable boat performance vs. other boats of comparable size. For boats of the same length, generally the higher the S#, the lower the PHRF.
Under 2 - Slow, under powered.
- Racer Cruiser
5+ - Fast/Racing
S# = *(10^(-[@[Dsp/LWL]]/+(*(LOG([@[SA/Dp]])-1)^)))
FOR MULTIHULLS ONLY:
BN - Bruce Number: The Bruce Number is a power-to-weight ratio for relative speed potential for comparing two or more boats. It takes into consideration the displacement and sail area of main and jib. % fore-triangle only, no overlapping sails.
Chris White, "The Cruising Multihull", (International Marine, Camden, Maine, ), states that a boat with a BN of less than will be slow in light winds. A boat with a BN of or greater is a boat that will be reefed often in offshore cruising.
Derek Harvey, "Multihulls for Cruising and Racing", International Marine, Camden, Maine, , states that a BN of 1 is generally accepted as the dividing line between so-called slow and fast multihulls.
BN = SA^/(Disp. in pounds)^
Kelsall Sailing Performance (KSP): Another measure of relative speed potential of a boat. It takes into consideration "reported" sail area, displacement and length at waterline. The higher the number the faster speed prediction for the boat. A cat with a number is likely to sail 6kts in 10kts wind, a cat with a number of is likely to sail at 7kts in 10kts wind.
KSP = (Lwl*SA÷D)^*
The Catalina 38 is very similar in systems to our C34s and the C This is if you are actually talking about the C38, the original pinched transom design, and not one of the newer C series.
Hard starting? Should be an M25 engine. The answer is usually simple: the engine ground on the port side aft of the alternator is a poor crimp from the factory. Remove it, check it and redo it. Other electrical issues may be part of it, but that's where to start.
Max rpm: usually 3, rpm out of gear, see if the prop has barnacles.
Chainplate rebedding: I have no idea how qualified you are, but you have to do one and then see how simple it really is.
Offshore heavy winds? Define heavy. It's a coastal cruiser, not an offshore boat design. A pinched stern boat is always gonna a bit squirelly downwind. They were designed as one design cruiser racers. They go upwind very well, and like all Catalinas are great on screaming reaches. It's an S&S hull design.
If you need systems information, check out our C34 website, www.c34ia.org, same stuff.
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I have heard this many times, and it always has me scratching my head.
I know my boat might not be as seaworthy in the nasty stuff as a full keel Island Packet, but neither is a Hunter or Beneteau.
The Catalina Hall of Fame has boats as small as a 36 doing a circumnavigation.
I believe last year we had a 34 singlehand it to Hawaii.
I love my It was the first sailboat I have ever owned. I think it is an excellent day sailor or weekender.
It appears I may be able to retire in the next couple of years, and I am ready to live on a sailboat.
My 36MKII is great for a night or two, but have decided to go bigger. Not sure I ever will go cruising, but would like to be able to do that with my new boat.
Considering the Catalina/Morgan or a C
Anyone else here considering the same thing?
C36 MKII # "Dash"
Pacific Beach, CA
Catalina A Used Sailboat, and a Love Story
A love affair with a sailboat is like a relationship you never quite let go. You may have moved on but you’ll never forget it, and although I eventually bought another boat, I’ve been a fan of the classic Catalina 38 for years. With its sleek lines and terrific performance, this one continues to hold a spot in the heart of many and actually has lived up to the promotional literature that boasted of “enduring desirability.” In fact, when it was introduced in , it was thought to have brought an East Coast sensibility to the West Coast production market at the right time and at the right price. Today you can still see these hulls on club racing circuits and in quiet anchorages around the country.
Design, Construction and Performance
This boat was designed as a racer by Sparkman & Stephens and was originally put into production and sold as the Yankee One look at its sleek lines and round tumblehome and you can tell it’s an S&S IOR design from the s. Some years later, Catalina bought the molds and Frank Butler made several changes including replacing the flush deck with a cabin house to make the sailboat more appealing to a coastal cruising market.
These boats were bare boned at first and definitely racing-oriented, with tillers instead of the Edson wheel steering that was introduced later, and gas engines instead of the four-cylinder Universal diesels that became standard. The interior originally featured pipe berths and Spartan décor with none of the teak trim that later made the accommodations more appealing. Together, these changes brought the boat into the racer-cruiser category, fit for both, a racing crew or a cruising family, and it became so popular that some hulls were produced between and The boat even became a famous Congressional Cup contender.
The hull was originally a two-piece construction with a poured lead keel. It was two pieces, because unlike the designs of today, that kind of a tumblehome made it impossible to get the boat out of the mold. The broad beam (over 11 feet) was swept gracefully back to a narrow wineglass transom. The original S&S design included a very sleek swept-back keel that maximized good performance to weather. Catalina later offered an optional shoal-draft version to expand the market to areas with skinny water. The keel-stepped, double-spreader, high-aspect ratio rig and fine entry made the 38 extremely fast to weather and able to outpoint many competitors of its time.
Standard equipment varied. Propellers were either two or three-bladed fixed, standard winches became self-tailing, and deck hardware came from different manufacturers depending on the purchasing agents. But the basic 38 remained mostly intact and sold very well for over 10 years, which speaks volumes about its design and appeal.
Layout and Accommodations
The layout is representative of the design’s time and heritage. Aft of the anchor locker is a comfortable v-berth followed by a head and shower combination to port with a hanging locker to starboard. The saloon follows with a U-shaped settee to port and a straight settee to starboard. The galley originally came with a two-burner stove, a double sink and an icebox that many owners later replaced with true refrigeration. The nav station is just forward of the quarter berth (which forms the nav seat) to starboard. At a stretch the design can sleep seven, but for cruising, it’s a perfect couple’s boat.
Racing and Cruising
It’s much debated today, but it’s rumored that the last of the 38s actually came out of the mold in and may have been sold in They seem to have been supplanted by the original Catalina 36 that ran concurrently in the mid s, but the more modern boats finally won out because they provided the market with a more sought-after layout including a separate aft cabin instead of a quarter berth, and a wider transom and cockpit for more room and cruising comfort.
The racing and cruising heritage of these boats has lead a long and healthy life. The Catalina 38s have performed consistently in club races and done very well in PHRF races over the years. There are many of the old classics still out there. They typically range in price from $35, to $55,, which is remarkable since they sold for around $70, to $80, when new.
Many of these boats have made their way to Mexico and the Caribbean. With some beefing up of old rigging and other deck hardware and systems, I wouldn’t hesitate to take this boat on an extended cruise. And although I love my current boat, as I see myself write these words, I wonder what would have been if only I had bought a Catalina 38…
See current Catalina 38 listings.
LOA: 382 * Beam: 1110 * Draft: 69 * Displacement: 15, lbs. * Sail Area: sq. ft. * Water Capacity: 40 gal. * Fuel Capacity: 35 gal.
Written by: Zuzana Prochazka
Zuzana Prochazka is a writer and photographer who freelances for a dozen boating magazines and websites. A USCG Ton Master, Zuzana has cruised, chartered and skippered flotillas in many parts of the world and serves as a presenter on charter destinations and topics. She is the Chair of the New Product Awards committee, judging innovative boats and gear at NMMA and NMEA shows, and currently serves as immediate past president of Boating Writers International. She contributes to Boats.com and YachtWorld.com, and also blogs regularly on her boat review site, TalkoftheDock.com.
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Twelve Top Bluewater Cruising Boats
Have you ever wondered what brands and models are the most popular bluewater cruising boats? So have we, so we plundered the archives of the World Cruising Club to see which boats have featured most prominently in the last five years of the rallies that the WCC organizesthe Atlantic Rally for Cruisers (ARC) from the Canary Islands to St Lucia; the Caribbean from Portsmouth, Virginia to Tortola, BVI; the ARC Europe, from Tortola and Portsmouth to Portugal via Bermuda and the Azores; and the World ARC, a biennial circumnavigation.
We werent surprised to find that mass production boats, once looked down upon by serious voyagers, now make up the bulk of the rally fleets. No longer, it seems, does the aspiring bluewater cruiser seek out slow, heavy-displacement boats with tiny cockpits and conservative rigs. As the mass-market builders produced ever-bigger models over the last 20 years, and evolving technology improved their engineering and durability, so owners began using these boats for ever-longer passages.
> Most popular brands in the ARC, (in order):
> Most popular brands in the Caribbean ,
Armchair admirals and chat-room bores may warn dolorously of lightweight structures failing in big seas and rigs crumpling at the merest hint of a hurricane, but given good preparation and a capable crew, the typical production boat is quite capable of surviving some very nasty conditions. For the trade wind passages that make up the bulk of bluewater cruising, there should be no argument about whether a suitably prepared production boat will make it across an ocean. For sailors who cant afford or justify one of the high-ticket deluxe cruising boats, its good to know there are plenty of good options among the ranks of moderately priced production cruisers.
The following boats were the 12 most numerous in the last five years of WCC rallies and do not represent a definitive list of the most popular cruisers worldwide. Some will surprise you; others will not.
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 54DS
What is it about this design that makes it such an attractive bluewater boat? Conceived as an all-round performance cruiser, the 54DS obviously struck a chord with the passagemaking crowd. The eye-catching, swooping lines of its superstructure were quite a sensation during its debut in , but its blend of generous accommodations, solid build quality and powerful, predictable performance sealed the deal for many owners. Designed by Jacques Fauroux, the 54DS came with a deep-draft keel and a standard in-mast furling mainsail; an optional full-battened main was the choice of most long-distance cruisers.
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 49
For a boat focused on the needs of the lucrative charter market, the Sun Odyssey 49 has proved a remarkably adept bluewater cruiser. A large cockpit, easily managed sailplan and fine all-round performance obviously have something to do with this; cool features like a dedicated sail locker in the bow and a large nav station belowdecks dont hurt either. The twin aft cabins are divided by a removable bulkhead that converts the space into a vast single cabin.
Amel Super Maramu
Henri Amel was a man with a vision of what the ideal cruising boat should be, and the Super Maramu was its culmination. You didnt get much latitude when choosing equipment for this boat; it came as a turnkey ocean crosser, with little latitude for customization. This footer is idiosyncratically French, and its also a superbly focused bluewater cruiser. Designed to be handled by a couple, its ketch rig is docile yet effective, with sails set on electric furling gears and some ingenious sail handling systems. Nearly of these boats were built before Amel replaced it with the
Hallberg-Rassy 42 and 42F
These tough center-cockpit cruisers from Sweden have generated their own mystique over the decades, and theres no doubt they live up to it. The 42F is typical of the breed; designed by German Frers, its build quality is exemplary and its seakeeping abilities are almost beyond reproach. Belowdecks, not a cubic inch of space is wasted in a layout thats as ergonomically impeccable as it is beautifully finished. There are two versions of the one designed by Olle Enderlein and built from ; and the 42F, which was built between These boats are fourth and fifth in the numbers of rally entrants.
Launched in , a year after Henri Amels death, the Amel 54 took the complete-cruiser concept to whole a new level. Changes to the interior layout reflected evolving expectations of comfort and use of space, while new styling on deck brought a thoroughly contemporary look to the design. What didnt change was the build quality and an excellent inventory that, once again, presented buyers with a sturdy boat that lacked nothing in terms of luxuries and essentials. Just add crew
Its no surprise that this German Frers design figures so strongly on the wish list for many wannabe bluewater cruisers. The hull is strongly built and easily driven by the masthead sloop sailplanmile days are easily attainableand the deck layout is a model of ergonomic efficiency. Belowdecks, no two boats are the same, as the builders allow for a good deal of flexibility in layout and finish. An RS (Raised Saloon) version adds to the already generous interior volume. The new Hylas 56 is based on the same sleek hull. Owners cite excellent seakeeping and ease of handling.
This boat was a shot across the bows of high-end boatbuilders, signaling Beneteaus entry into the luxury cruiser niche. The Farr-designed hull was fast and pretty, the center-cockpit layout eminently practical in a boat of this size, and the quality of finish and systems were impressiveand the price was extremely competitive. For well-heeled sailors who couldnt or didnt want to make the leap into an Oyster, the 57 was a viable alternative that soon drew other mainstream builders into the over foot market.
In the ranks of dream bluewater cruisers, Oyster is right up there. The 56 is the British yards most popular boat; small enough to be handled by two people, big enough to cross an ocean quickly and comfortably, yet not so large or complex as to need a full-time pro crew. Every aspect of the design and build is top-notch, and the boats consistently win their class in rallies and other regattas where cruising boats can compete. While sailhandling systems are optimized for a small crew, there are comfortable accommodations for six.
More Lagoons than any other brand of catamaran have crossed the Atlantic with the Atlantic Rally for Cruisers, and more s have taken part than any other Lagoon. Its easy to see why this is such a popular boat with people heading for the tropics. Between the saloon, the vast cockpit, the wide trampoline forward and the flybridge, there is plenty of opportunity for crew to either get some private time on passage or to congregate for meals or socializing in harbor. As for the sailing qualities, the is no sportster, but its capable of respectable passage times while keeping its crew safe and comfortable.
If any further proof were needed that mass production boats can cross oceans as easily as expensive semi-custom yachts, the Bavaria 42 provides plenty of it. Its a no-nonsense, low-budget, capable cruising boat, built to a price but well engineered, and has a straightforward interior layout with two or three sleeping cabins. A long waterline and decent sail area provide decent performance, even with the boat laden down with cruising essentials and stores. A center cockpit version, the Ocean 42, shares the same hull and was built in small numbers.
Big, comfortable, fast and reasonably priced, this boat was an instant hit for Beneteau. Great numbers of s were sold into the charter market, and as they aged out of the fleets, many were snapped up by cruisers with an eye for a bargain. They need little modification for bluewater work, and owners report they are stable and easy to handle in heavy weather. The three-cabin owners version, with a large stateroom forward thats not much use at sea but is ideal in harbor, is the most popular with cruisers.
What They Cost
Sample asking prices are taken from Boatquest.com
Amel Super Maramu:
Beneteau Oceanis :
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