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Thread: CVA Muzzleloader 12 Gauge Double Barrel

  • 09-13-2015, 08:52 AM#1


  • 09-13-2015, 09:03 AM#2

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    Non-buyers remorse is setting in.


    Think about testing the two bores for point of impact with round ball.
    Oh yeah!

  • 09-13-2015, 11:25 AM#3

    I have the Pedersoli SxS - taken quail, dove, chukar and pheasant with it. Very fun to hunt with, and sure gets the attention of anyone else in the field with you!


  • 09-13-2015, 01:47 PM#4

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    I have a question for you shotgun guys. In 1980 I bought a Pedersoli 12 gage from Dixie. I have since sold it.
    It was a pretty gun. But it had no choke in the barrel. It shot such a spread out pattern it was worthless. I used
    wads over the powder, & tried different loads. To this day I don't known if it was something I was doing wrong
    or just that gun. Can someone give me a bit of insight as to what it may have been other than the guns choke?

    Fly


  • 09-14-2015, 12:20 AM#5

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    Little powder, much shot, shoot far.


  • 09-14-2015, 08:44 AM#6

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    QuoteOriginally Posted by FlyView Post

    I have a question for you shotgun guys. In 1980 I bought a Pedersoli 12 gage from Dixie. I have since sold it.
    It was a pretty gun. But it had no choke in the barrel. It shot such a spread out pattern it was worthless. I used
    wads over the powder, & tried different loads. To this day I don't known if it was something I was doing wrong
    or just that gun. Can someone give me a bit of insight as to what it may have been other than the guns choke?

    Fly

    Fly,
    Hang Fire has it. My no-choke Pietta 12 gauge SxS patterns well with 70 grs of FFg and 1 1/4 oz of shot. 75 to 80 grs of powder with the same shot load is enough to blow the pattern. I always use 30%-40% more shot (by volume) than powder...Works for me.
    You can play around with wad type and make paper cups too...it definitely helps some but getting the powder/shot ratio correct is the most important part of a decent load.

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  • 09-14-2015, 12:13 PM#7

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    +1 on the above statements. I have never gotten a good pattern with a square load and no choke with my 12 gauge. Although my 10 gauge does fine with square loads.

    "There's a reason John Browning's middle name is Moses."


  • 09-14-2015, 10:04 PM#8

    Fly is offline
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    I know I should NEVER should have sold that gun!

    Oh, well live & learn. Fly


  • 09-15-2015, 12:50 PM#9

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    Be cautious. Lots of those were built from kits that didn't have heat treated lock parts. I bought one cheap a few years ago where the hammers were stuck at half cock. When I took off the side plates I found the sears were dead soft and all mushed up. Turned out to be a wall hanger...


  • 09-15-2015, 01:18 PM#10

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    Yeah, definitely go with a Pedersoli before a CVA if you can help it. $300 to me is a little much for a CVA. I would prefer to pay about $100 less. I have encountered enough CVAs with soft lock parts that I am gunshy about them.

    My old Pedersoli has a bit of choke in each barrel- about IC right and LM left. 70 gr. FFg/1 oz. shot patterns nicely in both barrels. My buddy has one about 20 years old that has a beautiful piece of walnut on it (mine's beech wood) and choke tubes. One would think that getting wads past the full choke constriction would be a pain but it isn't. (We use fiber wads lubed with bear grease.)


  • 09-16-2015, 03:08 AM#11

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    I have been shooting a Navy Arms 12G Double Percussion Shotgun since 1975 and would,nt change it for the world.Initialy the barrels looked upwards so I shaved the Comb down and refinished it.I can see along the barrels now.I converted to Top Hat Caps and shoot 2 1/2 Drams of BP and 1 1/4oz of Shot.Somehow the gun feels Right


  • 09-16-2015, 06:04 AM#12

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    Same thing here.
    Much shot easy on the powder.
    The 2nd set of shorty barrels are useless. Might be good if you were face to face with a 300 pound piney rooter and loaded with round ball.


  • 09-20-2015, 01:13 AM#13

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    300 is a great deal. They'll sell for 400 + on gunbroker in great solid non abused condition.

    Why anyone would turn a gun into a wall hanger over a $12 part is beyond me.


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    Nice!

    Anyone know if these are legal for hunting in Idaho?
    They are in Washington, as long as only one barrel is capped. (Last time I checked).


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    The guns themselves are usually well made and work well. They are now available from .50 to .72 caliber. The problem I've always found is that they fall in a price range that prevents the level of detail required to regulate both barrels to a common point of aim like expensive English rifles will be. In some cases, they will be close enough for hunting, in some you may have to load two different type loads to get their POA to a common spot. Some shooters will develop the best performance and set the sights to that load, then use a bit of Kentucky-windage to use the same sight for the other barrel. It's a little hard to give you a solid answer, but they are pretty good guns.

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    I was not going to accept having to use two different loads in the barrels on my Kodiak twin .58 caliber.
    I cut a .5 x .25 x 2" bar, double dovetailed it, and mounted 2 x Marbles type 69EW sights.
    I adjusted them to meet at 75 yards using a single front sight.
    Mine was made in 1968 and customized by Trail Guns Armory in Texas (now closed) with a rust brown finish, Mercury recoil dampener and a rubber buttpad.
    It's a hoot to shoot - a double barrel is twice the fun to shoot, and not that much harder to clean.
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